Jun 6, 2022·edited Jun 6, 2022Liked by Seth Keysor
I am absolutely, positively, definitively ambiguous about this guy. (I believe in clearly defined areas of uncertainty.) But it was cool getting a refresher course in analyzing RB play.
I'll say this: he was certainly drafted by the right team for a RB who is both willing and able to pass-block effectively. There's nothing more important than keeping 15 upright and healthy.
I don't want to be overly negative or provocative, but...CEH has agility? I feel like I don't remember seeing that outside of the time he juked Justin Reid out of his shoes in the 2020 season opener. The only other notable (good) CEH play I can remember is his goal line "bounce" TD against the Steelers, which wasn't really about agility.
The Chiefs seem to go through about five running backs a season with injuries and such. So there’s a good chance he gets some looks at some point. If he can hit holes fast enough to exploit light boxes he’ll be a solid addition.
Speaking of RB's.... Williams led Chiefs RB's with 57 targets last year, more than all the other RB's combined. Seth, what do you think the chances are that he'll lead them in targets again this season?
Also: Clyde had only 23 targets last year, which strikes me as an absurdly low number. What do you think the chances are that he'll have at least, say, 40 or more this year?
And last: do you think Clyde's low number of targets was more the result of decisions made by Andy, or decisions made by Mahomes?
I think people are underestimating his speed a little bit. He's very raw and lacks agility for sure but he's definitely very fast and violent in running style. I think the best display of his speed is the long run vs Michigan
I am so happy that Jamaal Charles is a Christian, because if I can never manage to hang with him in this life, there's always the next.
Do we pronounce the new spelling eyez-eye-ah? I don't want to butcher it and disrespect the kid.
Hope Isiah has a long and healthy career, but I still have no idea what our running back room is going to look like in terms of production, but I love that this guy can at least block better than someone on our roster.
This is off the Pacheco topic but I think it's timely….per Soren, PFF has Orlando Brown as the 28th rated OT in the NFL, and he wants to be paid as if he's the second coming of Willie Roaf.
That's a problem any way you look at it. Thuney has proven he can play well at LT. He's almost certainly better at pass pro than Brown and obviously that's priority #1. And the Chiefs have multiple options for replacing Thuney at LG (which is, after all, the least important position on the field.) Obvious candidates include whoever doesn't win the RT position, but they're not the only options.
A year ago he shot his way out of Baltimore. Now, the way Orlando shot his mouth off on NFL Network, we may be witnessing a repeat performance, whether that's what he intended or not. I doubt that Veach took kindly to the challenge implied in Brown's comments.
FYI: PFF projects him as the 23rd best OT next season, not much of an improvement...
Sorry for more off-topicness but an article at The Athletic today really grabbed my attention as it relates to expectations for KC's D-line.
Most would agree that Chase Young is one of the true young studs among edge rushers. The article's writer described his start so far as a "rousing success." But dig a bit deeper and maybe that's not quite so apparent. This is relevant to the Chiefs because of George Karlaftis, whom I'll get to shortly…
Young's 2nd season was cut short by injury, so in 24 games so far he's averaged just 0.375 sacks/game (9 total) with a <9% pressure rate. There's no doubt he's immensely talented. This just shows how difficult it is for an Edge to make an immediate impact in the NFL.
I doubt that anyone thinks Karlaftis is as talented or naturally gifted as Young is. Yet there are some who seem to imagine
that Karlaftis is going to have a huge immediate impact, not only with his own production but because he'll require double-teams that free up others to do damage. If nothing else, Chase Young's career so far teaches us that we should dial back those expectations quite a bit.
Perhaps Karlaftis will be able to match Young's pressure rate, plus come up with maybe 4 or 5 sacks. I see absolutely no reason to expect more than that. Which means that if the D-line is to improve its pass rush, it's going to come down to the brutally inconsistent Frank Clark to do it. (Yikes.) We know Chris Jones will be Chris Jones, if healthy. We know that the other DT's and Edges will occasionally get pressures and rarely get sacks. That leaves Clark as the only major variable on the D-line.
If he can't show us "good Frank Clark" then Spags once again will have to resort to blitzes to try to generate pressure. And with a whole bunch of very young LB's and DB's in coverage that's a risky proposition at best.
Interested to see him in preseason and hope he shows out. I appreciate your articles and time investment.
I am absolutely, positively, definitively ambiguous about this guy. (I believe in clearly defined areas of uncertainty.) But it was cool getting a refresher course in analyzing RB play.
I'll say this: he was certainly drafted by the right team for a RB who is both willing and able to pass-block effectively. There's nothing more important than keeping 15 upright and healthy.
I don't want to be overly negative or provocative, but...CEH has agility? I feel like I don't remember seeing that outside of the time he juked Justin Reid out of his shoes in the 2020 season opener. The only other notable (good) CEH play I can remember is his goal line "bounce" TD against the Steelers, which wasn't really about agility.
Do you know if anyone has ever written in depth about Jamaal Charles? Because he seemed kind of good. At the time.
The Chiefs seem to go through about five running backs a season with injuries and such. So there’s a good chance he gets some looks at some point. If he can hit holes fast enough to exploit light boxes he’ll be a solid addition.
So Seth, Pacheco only has decent speed @4.37 vs. J Charles game breaking speed @ 4.36. I know, I know game speed.
camp body?
Is it bad that I want to see McKinnon back?
Speaking of RB's.... Williams led Chiefs RB's with 57 targets last year, more than all the other RB's combined. Seth, what do you think the chances are that he'll lead them in targets again this season?
Also: Clyde had only 23 targets last year, which strikes me as an absurdly low number. What do you think the chances are that he'll have at least, say, 40 or more this year?
And last: do you think Clyde's low number of targets was more the result of decisions made by Andy, or decisions made by Mahomes?
I think people are underestimating his speed a little bit. He's very raw and lacks agility for sure but he's definitely very fast and violent in running style. I think the best display of his speed is the long run vs Michigan
I am so happy that Jamaal Charles is a Christian, because if I can never manage to hang with him in this life, there's always the next.
Do we pronounce the new spelling eyez-eye-ah? I don't want to butcher it and disrespect the kid.
Hope Isiah has a long and healthy career, but I still have no idea what our running back room is going to look like in terms of production, but I love that this guy can at least block better than someone on our roster.
This is off the Pacheco topic but I think it's timely….per Soren, PFF has Orlando Brown as the 28th rated OT in the NFL, and he wants to be paid as if he's the second coming of Willie Roaf.
That's a problem any way you look at it. Thuney has proven he can play well at LT. He's almost certainly better at pass pro than Brown and obviously that's priority #1. And the Chiefs have multiple options for replacing Thuney at LG (which is, after all, the least important position on the field.) Obvious candidates include whoever doesn't win the RT position, but they're not the only options.
A year ago he shot his way out of Baltimore. Now, the way Orlando shot his mouth off on NFL Network, we may be witnessing a repeat performance, whether that's what he intended or not. I doubt that Veach took kindly to the challenge implied in Brown's comments.
FYI: PFF projects him as the 23rd best OT next season, not much of an improvement...
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2022-offensive-tackle-rankings-tiers
They describe him as a "good but not great starter." Sounds about right.
Meanwhile PFF says Thuney "is the best pass-blocking guard in the NFL."
https://mobile.twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1478803487286718464
Sorry for more off-topicness but an article at The Athletic today really grabbed my attention as it relates to expectations for KC's D-line.
Most would agree that Chase Young is one of the true young studs among edge rushers. The article's writer described his start so far as a "rousing success." But dig a bit deeper and maybe that's not quite so apparent. This is relevant to the Chiefs because of George Karlaftis, whom I'll get to shortly…
Young's 2nd season was cut short by injury, so in 24 games so far he's averaged just 0.375 sacks/game (9 total) with a <9% pressure rate. There's no doubt he's immensely talented. This just shows how difficult it is for an Edge to make an immediate impact in the NFL.
I doubt that anyone thinks Karlaftis is as talented or naturally gifted as Young is. Yet there are some who seem to imagine
that Karlaftis is going to have a huge immediate impact, not only with his own production but because he'll require double-teams that free up others to do damage. If nothing else, Chase Young's career so far teaches us that we should dial back those expectations quite a bit.
Perhaps Karlaftis will be able to match Young's pressure rate, plus come up with maybe 4 or 5 sacks. I see absolutely no reason to expect more than that. Which means that if the D-line is to improve its pass rush, it's going to come down to the brutally inconsistent Frank Clark to do it. (Yikes.) We know Chris Jones will be Chris Jones, if healthy. We know that the other DT's and Edges will occasionally get pressures and rarely get sacks. That leaves Clark as the only major variable on the D-line.
If he can't show us "good Frank Clark" then Spags once again will have to resort to blitzes to try to generate pressure. And with a whole bunch of very young LB's and DB's in coverage that's a risky proposition at best.
Definite possibility of a firm maybe on this one